Are they the same? Do they arise through different processes from within and without?
The definitions of these ideas seem a little bit fuzzy - a little squishy - not simple - not black or white. We look at how our values and motivations sometimes change as we get older. A consistent theme of the conversation is how to find ease in what was and what is, and how being at ease within ourselves shapes our lives.
An exercise:
When you’re in a peaceful state, think of all the things that ever made you happy. Tick them off in your mind. Then, remove all those things that are material — bicycles, cars, clothes, homes. Think about what you have left. Then, take away all the things related to sustenance — food drink nourishment (coffee). Think about what is left. Then take away all those things related to propagation — the look of an attractive person, sex, flirtation. Think about what is left. Then, the most difficult thing of all. Take away all those things involving human and animal interaction. What is left?
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